Engineers solving "my agent stops when I close my lid" by physically holding the lid open is the funniest possible local optimum. Amphetamine app fixes the lid problem. Claude's /remote-control command also helps. The two together cost zero dollars and one minute of setup.
toasty228 27 days ago [-]
There are people who go YEARS with smoke alarms chirping every 5 minutes, I stopped being impress at what people are willing to put up with, even if a 30s google search would solve their problem, the sky is the limit
add-sub-mul-div 27 days ago [-]
It also costs the slightest bit of ambition and independent problem solving.
We should have foreseen that were breeding a population that can't independently solve problems when it became so ubiquitous for people to ask questions online that could be answered instantly with even the compromised 2020s state of search engines.
Dependence on LLMs could be the natural extension of that culture.
gofreddygo 27 days ago [-]
The article explicitly says "AI coders". Not engineers. Not hackers. Not a mere accident I suppose.
ekjhgkejhgk 27 days ago [-]
These aren't engineers they're influencers. And your solution doesn't convey any status. I promise you that this either already is or soon will be understood even by the normies as a status signal.
yumraj 27 days ago [-]
one's a head of product, didn't read beyond that..
teitoklien 27 days ago [-]
I literally have a custom built command
lid-toggle on
lid-toggle off
lid-toggle toggle
that allows me to switch the behaviour for laptop lid close , to behave the way i want it to,
So i can close my laptop, keep it in my bag, with my headphones on
and talk to claude code while its coding stuff , albeit it runs a bit warm inside my bag, but it works just fine.
I run a custom setup on linux to make it all happen
Why would someone risk breaking their laptop by keeping it half open like this , instead of just quickly building a toggle to change the suspend on lid close behaviour ?
deadfoxygrandpa 27 days ago [-]
dude you can stop using the computer sometimes. its gonna be ok. take a break.
teitoklien 27 days ago [-]
No, Cant Stop. Wont Stop.
cobalt60 27 days ago [-]
You dont need to worry about them
realaknez 27 days ago [-]
The irony that finding a solution is way easier than carrying the half-open laptop must really say something about modern day vibecoding.
peschu 27 days ago [-]
I guess these people are not coders at all. Maybe they should ask claude to temporarily change the „lid close action“ in the power settings? ;)
tdeck 27 days ago [-]
I immediately thought of SSH but you're right. That's far too complicated for the next crop of AI synergy experts.
xingped 27 days ago [-]
You joke, but even 8-9yrs ago, I had at least one new junior join my team who couldn't even tell or fathom the difference between whether they were on their own laptop or on the server when using the terminal. It was a constant problem where they were trying to run commands on the wrong computer.
I don't have much hope anything has improved since then.
fragmede 27 days ago [-]
The Debian package molly-guard was first released in 2006. 20 years ago!
globular-toast 27 days ago [-]
You don't need to be a "coder", just a vaguely competent computer user. It's really sad you've got people who just don't feel in control of their computers at all and would resort to not closing the lid.
jaapz 27 days ago [-]
Or they just dont want to spend time figuring out how to do that because they are busy with something else
Naah, they are probably dumb as hell!
lazide 27 days ago [-]
To be fair, they are almost certainly dumb as hell regardless of if they spend time figuring this out or not.
tdeck 27 days ago [-]
I'm confused, if AI told are making these people more efficient, why do they need to use them to do "work" every waking moment?
coffeefirst 27 days ago [-]
The AI Bros definition of efficiency is about how efficiently you burn tokens to make number go up.
kgwxd 27 days ago [-]
Lots of comments on here about turning off the lid close behavior but, last time I tried that on Windows, a long time ago, because I was using vnc from my main desktop, the thing ran horribly slow because it did some other "power saving" junk on the video card. Is that still an issue?
I currently have 3 laptops opened all the way flat, and standing in a folder rack (because they take up an awkward amount of space open the normal way), that i remote into for various jobs. Can I close them these days without a major hit to basic performance? Of course i'd have to open them to turn them on anyway, so that'd be annoying.
alamortsubite 27 days ago [-]
It usually only takes a few minutes to pull the bezel and remove the magnet that interrupts the hall sensor.
To all the clever "AI" engineers reading this: don't ever leave a laptop running in your bag (or anywhere without adequate ventilation).
SwellJoe 27 days ago [-]
I guess they never asked Claude to explain tmux to them.
Imustaskforhelp 27 days ago [-]
Do you think that they might even know what tmux is? I bet a lot of them might not even know about it if they are carrying half open laptops through airports, smh
ronsor 27 days ago [-]
Have they tried using remotely hosted servers instead?
egorfine 27 days ago [-]
They don't what a "server" is.
lifestyleguru 27 days ago [-]
There is no cloud it's just someone else's computer. Some else will have to keep the lid open.
kevmo314 27 days ago [-]
You can keep my computer's lid open for the low price of $25/mo
lifestyleguru 27 days ago [-]
I'll need access to your webcam. I don't really believe in "The Cloud".
vidarh 27 days ago [-]
Hey, if there's a market for people watching me sit at my desk and stare at my screens for $25/month, you're welcome to. It will be very boring.
> Twitch made an estimated $1.8 billion revenue in 2024 and had an average of 2.37 million concurrent viewers.
vidarh 27 days ago [-]
Somehow I doubt I'd make much. I may have an ego, but not one big enough to think enough people would watch me ignore them... But maybe I should try.
Imustaskforhelp 27 days ago [-]
Just buy a cheap 7$/yr vps if they are so invested, or simply change it so that lid can be turned off without turning off the computer.
I don't understand what they get with this chicanery of half open though :-/
blitzar 27 days ago [-]
> ice rinks
Is there an advanced ice water facial method that I don't have the appropriate grindset to comprehend, and does anyone know an ice rink that opens at 3:30am?
momo26 27 days ago [-]
The next version of MacOS should have a choice to "keep alive while the screen is closed" lol
johng 27 days ago [-]
Aren't there a few utilities for that, like caffeinate, etc?
Crestwave 27 days ago [-]
`caffeinate` is primarily designed to prevent sleeping due to inactivity. It doesn't prevent sleeping due to lid closure while on battery.
`sudo pmset -b disablesleep 1` (0 to revert) works, although it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
dundunUp 27 days ago [-]
The modern version of “I’m busy” is walking around with a half-open MacBook and an AI tab running.
egorfine 27 days ago [-]
The irony? A person who is capable of running the same /usr/bin/claude in screen on a remote linux server will look much less busy despite burning way more tokens this way.
We should have foreseen that were breeding a population that can't independently solve problems when it became so ubiquitous for people to ask questions online that could be answered instantly with even the compromised 2020s state of search engines.
Dependence on LLMs could be the natural extension of that culture.
lid-toggle on lid-toggle off lid-toggle toggle
that allows me to switch the behaviour for laptop lid close , to behave the way i want it to,
So i can close my laptop, keep it in my bag, with my headphones on and talk to claude code while its coding stuff , albeit it runs a bit warm inside my bag, but it works just fine.
I run a custom setup on linux to make it all happen
Why would someone risk breaking their laptop by keeping it half open like this , instead of just quickly building a toggle to change the suspend on lid close behaviour ?
I don't have much hope anything has improved since then.
Naah, they are probably dumb as hell!
I currently have 3 laptops opened all the way flat, and standing in a folder rack (because they take up an awkward amount of space open the normal way), that i remote into for various jobs. Can I close them these days without a major hit to basic performance? Of course i'd have to open them to turn them on anyway, so that'd be annoying.
To all the clever "AI" engineers reading this: don't ever leave a laptop running in your bag (or anywhere without adequate ventilation).
> Twitch made an estimated $1.8 billion revenue in 2024 and had an average of 2.37 million concurrent viewers.
I don't understand what they get with this chicanery of half open though :-/
Is there an advanced ice water facial method that I don't have the appropriate grindset to comprehend, and does anyone know an ice rink that opens at 3:30am?
`sudo pmset -b disablesleep 1` (0 to revert) works, although it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
Or...what?